Investigative journalist Katherine Stewart returns to discuss Christian nationalism, presidential overreach, the persecution narrative, and what the US midterms mean for democracy at home and abroad.
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Two years ago, Katherine Stewart came on the show with a stark warning about the long campaign of Christian nationalism in the United States. A lot has happened since. As the US approaches the midterm elections, she returns to take stock: the changes, the corruption, the resistance, and what the next two years could bring, in America and well beyond it.
James Hodgson and Katherine discuss presidential overreach and what she calls the most lawless administration in American history, how the movement long predated Trump and will outlast him, the "persecution narrative" used to justify stripping away others' rights, the erosion of the separation of church and state, parallels with Reform UK and the European far right, and where the pockets of pro-democracy resistance really are.
"The aim is not about banning abortion. If they ban all abortions, they'll move on to the next thing. What they really want is to destroy democracy itself." — Katherine Stewart
About the guest
Katherine Stewart is an award-winning investigative journalist and author who has spent more than a decade reporting on the religious right and Christian nationalism. Her books are The Good News Club (2012), The Power Worshippers (2020), which inspired the documentary God & Country, and her latest, Money, Lies, and God: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy (2025).
In this episode
- Why Katherine calls this the most lawless administration in US history, and how the movement predates Trump and will outlast him
- The "persecution narrative": how claiming victimhood is used to shield abuses and justify stripping away the rights of others
- The international picture, from Viktor Orbán to Reform UK, the economics behind it, and where pro-democracy resistance is winning
Links and references
- Katherine Stewart's website: https://katherinestewart.me
- Money, Lies, and God: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy (2025): https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/money-lies-and-god-9781635578546/
- The Power Worshippers: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism (2020): https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/money-lies-and-god-9781635578546/
- The Good News Club: The Christian Right's Stealth Assault on America's Children (2012): https://www.amazon.co.uk/Good-News-Club-Religious-Americas/dp/1586488430
- God & Country, the documentary based on The Power Worshippers: https://www.godandcountrythemovie.com
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